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05/25/2010

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Mr Hate

Excuse me, the violence was in Juarez. Not at UTEP. A former student and student were gunned down across the border. WTF?

Miner Niner

How did the violence "reach UTEP" ? Are you dumb? or is this the typical ploy to get readers to view this????

Funny, I was at UTEP yesterday and i didn't see any gunmen (sarcasm). Typical El Paso Times with their crap reporting.

joeb

Well duh, Mr Hate. WTF with your juvenile comment? Lourdes is pointing out what is obvious to one as intelligent as yourself, that UTEP students are yet another group that has suffered with the drug "war." Any negative remark you can make about the inept, corrupt government of Mexico has already been said many times, by her. I am still amazed that the truly ignorant in the US cannot imagine such a thing happening here- where the elitist exploit the poor for 100 years, and then, bang bang boom! Suddenly there's a counter-culture! "Listen to the dull and ignorant; they too have their say," so the philosophers say.

RoOsTeR

joeb,

You have to admit she could've used a different title. The title makes it seem like it (drug war violence) has literally spilled over in to the campus. Yes, once you read the story you understand what is meant by the title, but titles like this could possibly give the University a black eye.

English Speaker

Don't begin sentences with "Although" Jeez. Did you go to journalism school at all?o

joeb

I agree, she could have used a different wording. Thanks for a civil comment.
For englishspeaker, you seem to be captured in grade school English class, jeez. Sorry, make that "JEEZ." Anyone who goes to journalism school who cannot break free from the rules and regulations is destined to remain non-essential. Remember Thomas Merton? Vonnegut? The important thing for me is to read Lourdes' comments, from the generous heart and mind, rather than from an embittered, prejudiced mindset.

rmf

Lourdes, your 20+ yrs in journalism did not serve you well.Yes it is sad that two UTEP students lost their lives to the violence that is consuming Juarez, there was no violence reported at UTEP. Your bad choice of words "violence reaches UTEP" must be a journalistic ploy to get people to read your work.

Miriam

Instead of discussing a title or Lourdes' years of experience, we should be discussing how to help our brothers and sisters in Juárez.
And just curious, would it make a difference for you if your son or daughter was gunned in your house or across the street? If it's a member of your family the place becomes irrelevant, don't you think?

average joe

These are two of the over 5000 homicide "victims" in Juarez since 2008. Were they selected at random? Doubtful, especially since it was reported that Gonzalez lost a brother to the violence two years ago. And now he was murdered. It is not rocket science to be able to say with a fair degree of certianty that he was mixed up in something sinister. The other kid, the current UTEP student, was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong guy.


alice from Ky

"average joe" suits this writer perfectly. "Average Sarah Palin " is more like it. There is not one shred of evidence, nor rocket science, to support the conclusions. I have said many times and others have, that the major problem with America is its ignorance.
Rocket science, by the way, has been around for thousand of years before the Hebrews, and before the first words of the Bible.

el chuco

I think average joe hit it on the head. Why else were these two killed? It was not a mass shooting in whcih they could have been by-standers. They were the two that were killed. Plain/simple

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My name is Lourdes Cardenas. I’m journalist from Mexico with over 20 years of experience working as an editor, producer, correspondent and reporter for Mexican and American media in Mexico and the United States.

I want to foster discussions on news and issues that will bring a better understanding of Mexico.

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